So...

Falconiano · Dec 2nd 2018, 7:36pm

You're just hanging there with your girlfriend and this guy slaps her ass

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What do you do?

Angmar · Dec 2nd 2018, 9:43pm

So...

You actually logged into hex to bother doing this?

You know Artifact is released now right?

Norwind · Dec 3rd 2018, 7:10am

Yes, he actually logged in for some fun and he found it. Then he had the nerve to share it here. I mean, who does that?

I applaud anyone who manages to have fun in the wasteland that is hex, although the PvE part is the same as always do it would be a fun as always I guess.

Linux · Dec 3rd 2018, 9:15am

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AxelDWater · Dec 3rd 2018, 3:36pm

Holy Reprisal

AxelDWater · Dec 3rd 2018, 3:37pm

AxelDWater wrote:

Holy Reprisal

Or Sunlit Sentence with trinket equip for PvE.

AxelDWater · Dec 3rd 2018, 3:41pm

AxelDWater wrote:

AxelDWater wrote:

Holy Reprisal

Or Sunlit Sentence with trinket equip for PvE.

Or Dread End AA

MantisAnt · Dec 3rd 2018, 10:46pm

He's lifebound. I can't compete with that.

Plotynus · Dec 4th 2018, 5:54pm

I miss Hex man. I mean, MTGA is fine but Hex was far better as a card game and as a client. And artifact sucks.

Needed to say that somewhere. I hate you Cory.

HAVOC · Dec 4th 2018, 9:09pm

Yea I'm already over Artifact... it is heavily hero dependant and also lots of RNG...

Obsidian · Dec 4th 2018, 9:49pm

Draft has not been that great for Artifact, unfortunately. I think that heroes become too dominant because they are the most consistent part of the deck and you always get to use them. That's why, at least in my experience, red heroes seem to dominate so much. People say blue and green are more powerful at high end, but I think it's only for constructed where that's true, when you can build a cohesive and consistent deck.

Cernz · Dec 4th 2018, 11:04pm

HAVOC wrote:

Yea I'm already over Artifact... it is heavily hero dependant and also lots of RNG...

meh arent all card games full of rng.

i still think that player made choices matter more in artifact than in hex or mtga for example.

in hex / mtga it all comes down to the starting hand and the draws, if you draw good the plays are often premade before thinking, in artifact you have to consider all your decisions a bit more, and yes heroes are important, but you can outplay a poor player easier in artifact than in hex / magic.

note: i only talk about draft - i have no clue about constructed ;)...

artifact is my favorite tcg/ccg/game overall atm, but lets see how it evolves with the next 1-2 sets and with ladder and stuff.

Vroengard · Dec 5th 2018, 1:43pm

Cernz wrote:

meh arent all card games full of rng

Yes but, there are huge differences from game to game from 0.01% (where to only RNG is the cards you draw) to 99.99% (where every card has the word random or you have to roll dice for everything, yes, such a game doesn't actually exist, I'm just giving an example).

AceBladewing · Dec 5th 2018, 8:40pm

Vroengard wrote:

where every card has the word random or you have to roll dice for everything, yes, such a game doesn't actually exist, I'm just giving an example

I dunno, the Pokemon TCG is pretty fucking close to that. Just about every competitive card involves coin flips.

HAVOC · Dec 6th 2018, 3:32am

Cernz wrote:

HAVOC wrote:

Yea I'm already over Artifact... it is heavily hero dependant and also lots of RNG...

meh arent all card games full of rng.
i still think that player made choices matter more in artifact than in hex or mtga for example.

in hex / mtga it all comes down to the starting hand and the draws, if you draw good the plays are often premade before thinking, in artifact you have to consider all your decisions a bit more, and yes heroes are important, but you can outplay a poor player easier in artifact than in hex / magic.

note: i only talk about draft - i have no clue about constructed ;)...

artifact is my favorite tcg/ccg/game overall atm, but lets see how it evolves with the next 1-2 sets and with ladder and stuff.

I guess the difference is that in something like Hex you can tune your deck to make certain things more likely, such as having more low cost cards to increase the odds of having answers to aggression.

In Artifact you are at the mercy of the RNGods in so many ways, regardless of how well your deck is built.

Cernz · Dec 6th 2018, 4:11am

i guess it would have been too easy without rng creeps / arrows

ReluxTheRelux · Dec 6th 2018, 4:18am

I dunno, the only card game I can think of with almost no RNG(or at least in comparasion to othr card games) would be yugioh.

Treasure · Dec 6th 2018, 9:33am

I hated when they had more rng style sets in hex and i almost stopped playing then. I won't start artefact because it's all about rng and the worst design choice ever. They game looks great and might recover itself in future sets but right now better to play coin flips to decide who wins. And even that richard garfield designed and he is very good at making card games he still is wrong with it this time and the to much rng.

this review sums it up for me.

Cernz · Dec 6th 2018, 12:47pm

In theory there is lots of rng, but in practice I lost way more games to screw/flood in hex/mtga than due to rng in artifact.

But yes, this game isn't for everyone, at least there are active queues, and that's was matters :whistling:

Pandaemonium · Dec 6th 2018, 1:37pm

Reynad is also looking to make his own card game so to say he his biased is an understatement.

There are problems with artifact, but the amount of decision making required is much larger than hex. The rng is there but I think it becomes much less relevant on a higher skill level. I really think the rng cards for hex in draft were much more problematic than what artifact has.

Artifact is missing a tournament scene or some type of incentive to keep playing. I have a feeling we will hear about that next week since all current modes are expected to expire December 14th.

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