You could never do this with Hex. At one point you could make in game currency, but selling it for cash is such a low conversion rate that it wasn't worth anywhere near what it was on MTGO."Can also make money on demand with constructed on MTGO." <- Exactly my point what the main issue is for Hex.
You'd be guessing wrong. Stop guessing. Stop making stuff up. It is ok to say "I don't know" or "I'm unsure" and defer to people with more experience than yourself. MTGO and Hex have similar entry prices for constructed, but Hex has far more risk. Once you buy a Hex deck you are locked into it. Hope you like it. Once I have a MTGO deck I can turn it into another in minutes with little loss or back into cash.I havent played MTGO in recent years but I actually played it a long long time before that. Unless things have changed drasticaly I would gues MTGO is more expensive.
I have no idea. See how fucking easy it is to say that?Constructed aside. Where do you think is it more feasible to go infinite playing limited? MTGO or Hex ?
I never really played much limited in either client. I haven't been talking about limited though. I've been talking about constructed.
I think the people predicting the death of MTGO really must be doing it to make themselves feel better. MTGO is probably more likely to be here 5 years from now than Hex at the current rate both are going.
Never quite achieved going infinited in mtgo. Achieved it right away in Hex. So thats not just a gues from my side.
I made over 2k € by selling cards in 2 years with Hex. Its not 'that' impossible to make money. But sure..probably would have been more if I played with the same winrates mtgo (although the competition field for top heavy tournaments is smaller in Hex and the differnece is due to resell value difference on the seconday market).
Mostly my point isnt necessarily about resell value but about grinding any kind of rewards by on-demand constructed.
Your point about resell value is a fair one though. It is certainly an important factor for players.
But HXE cant really do much to change this I would argue.
You say that cards are worth essentialy nothing when you sell them but then you complain that buying cards is too expensive.
I know what you are saying (official AH versus seconday market) but the point is, is that there is a compromise in between.
Educated guesses is a valid approach. Thats not the same as making stuff up (and I am astonished you use these words).
Same goes for comparisons out of individual experience (as I laid out).
You can compare EVs under a given winrate. Thats just math. I would argue that the EV in limited (by comparing ingame value and not resell value) is higher in Hex than in MTGO.
I am too lazy to look up the current MTGO numbers but when I was playing the EV was lower than it is now in Hex.
What Biz writes suggests that it hasnt changed that drastic.
The EV in constructed for things like bash depends on the value of the promo card. So thats not so easy to calculate. It is very top heavy.
The data you gave about mtgo leagues are not sufficient enough to make a direct comparison since you would need to look at all win brackets to calculate ev.
And then you can compare deck prices. A quick google seach tells me that the mtgo deck prices for standard are on a comparable level to Hex.
But again...AH prices in Hex are very much inflated I would argue. When you compare the secondary market I would argue deck prices are cheaper in Hex. To be fair I am not sure how to factor in renting decks. Call it a gues.
Finally I would suggest that you dont get so riled up about everything. There is no reason to escalate anything.
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