That sounds like a strictly casual format if ever there was one.
Top 8 of the CCS Should be Constructed
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It's not. In fact, it's a format WotC has used in the past with the top players in the world. For example, here's decklists from one time they did it:
schild wrote:
That sounds like a strictly casual format if ever there was one.
magic.wizards.com/en/articles/…aled-decklists-2006-05-12 -
have they done it since then?
Mach wrote:
It's not. In fact, it's a format WotC has used in the past with the top players in the world. For example, here's decklists from one time they did it:schild wrote:
That sounds like a strictly casual format if ever there was one.
magic.wizards.com/en/articles/…aled-decklists-2006-05-12
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Not sure. They did it regularly during the Invitational, but then they stopped doing the invitational. I don't think they have any good opportunities for such a format these days.
schild wrote:
have they done it since then?Mach wrote:
It's not. In fact, it's a format WotC has used in the past with the top players in the world. For example, here's decklists from one time they did it:magic.wizards.com/en/articles/…aled-decklists-2006-05-12schild wrote:
That sounds like a strictly casual format if ever there was one.
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the invitational was wacky top to bottom though
i'm going to go ahead and say that this format should be relegated to the dustbins of history -
But that wackiness had a purpose: to test the best players in ways which normal formats could not. Or as the creator of those formats put it:
schild wrote:
the invitational was wacky top to bottom though
i'm going to go ahead and say that this format should be relegated to the dustbins of history
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/event-coverage/duplicate-limited-intro-2015-09-02 wrote:
Sealed limited play is one of the most fun formats for Magic. Unfortunately, the random factor of card distribution adds an element of luck that often overshadows the players' skills. Duplicate Limited solves this problem by giving all the players the exact same mix of cards.
Duplicate Limited is considered by some to be one of the most skill testing limited formats as it requires a great deal of thought. Since players have complete knowledge of the environment, they have to build their deck with the metagame in mind.
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Priority is getting new players. So it is a priority because it will improve coverage.
Portensio wrote:
which at this time would not be a priority
For the record, I have sat through all the Day 1 CCSs I could manage and some times watched it from start to end. I have never ever watched Day 2. And by asking a few people, they haven't watched much or at all of Day 2 either. So my narrow empirical sample leads me to believe that there must be data saying that Constructed events attract more viewers.
And when the stakes are higher (top 8), viewers are more glued to their screens. So I understand why being more emotionally invested in the result of what you're watching would make coverage better.
I don't know how HXE could balance having both Limited and Constructed high level competitions and be fair about it, but I doubt we'll see any change soon or ever. I mean, they haven't done much simpler things, like having the official HEXTCG channel broadcast 24/7. I've seen the game have 0 channels live / 0 viewers on many occasions. -
Mach,
Yea, I fully understand the purpose. It just sounds awful for a low pop game. Like, truly awful. Learning who is best with a specific pool of cards is like, fun in abstract. In practice it would need to just be a small part of something much wider - like an invitational. So I stand by my original assessment of calling it casual. -
Those decklists actually look like a reason to do it for me. Many different decks.
schild wrote:
have they done it since then?Mach wrote:
It's not. In fact, it's a format WotC has used in the past with the top players in the world. For example, here's decklists from one time they did it:magic.wizards.com/en/articles/…aled-decklists-2006-05-12schild wrote:
That sounds like a strictly casual format if ever there was one.
I'm going to go ahead and say that we should try this format at least once in a HEX setting before blindly condemning it.schild wrote:
the invitational was wacky top to bottom though
i'm going to go ahead and say that this format should be relegated to the dustbins of history
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Or a CCS.
schild wrote:
In practice it would need to just be a small part of something much wider - like an invitational.
There are advantages for coverage as well, as the casters (and the viewers) could discuss the pool while the players are building there decks and try to predict what pool the players would choose. Or, you could even hold a parallel duplicate sealed tournament with the same pool for those not in the top 8. -
Excellent points. I would really like to see that.
Mach wrote:
Or a CCS.schild wrote:
In practice it would need to just be a small part of something much wider - like an invitational.
There are advantages for coverage as well, as the casters (and the viewers) could discuss the pool while the players are building there decks and try to predict what pool the players would choose. Or, you could even hold a parallel duplicate sealed tournament with the same pool for those not in the top 8.
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duplicate limited is just constructed with fewer packs and more color-screw issues
mirror matches suck in luck-dependent games. it's a big reason why limited is almost always at least decent while constructed is quite often awful
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